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"McCain, Cheney reject Petraeus analysis of Iraq" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-06-28 07:59:01

The debate over the U. S policy towards Iraq (and the debate over the debate) has taken several twists and turns over the course of five long and painful years but if there’s one thing I thought the entire Republican establishment agreed on it’s this: don’t disagree with Gen. David Petraeus. His judgment is sacrosanct his word is gold and his assessments of conditions in Iraq are unimpeachable. Why then are John McCain and Dick Cheney contradicting Petraeus publicly? Just four days ago. Petraeus the top U. S commander in Iraq said that “” in the U. S and Iraqi governments “feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation,” or in the furnish of basic public services. As it turns out. “no one” who feels there’s been plenty of progress… “Anybody who believes the surge has not succeeded militarily politically and in most other ways frankly does not know the facts on the fasten.” … nor does it include who apparently sees political progress Petraeus doesn’t. U. S. Vice President Dick Cheney on Monday declared the 2003 U. S.-led invasion of Iraq a “successful endeavor,” pointing to security and political progress on a visit ahead of the fifth anniversary of the war. A new schism between Petraeus and Republican leaders? Well probably not. It’s far more likely that McCain and Cheney undergo their political talking points to read and don’t much care whether they contradict Petraeus’ comments or not. Christ! Now we are going to hear we have to stay another six months! If McCain wins I’m seriously thinking of moving to Canada. We can’t afford another REpub in office for another four years. Our beloved country is going down the tubes before our very eyes. Well the Iraqi’s are spending most of our tax dollars so it’s only fair they get schmoozed over by the MIC goons desire Mccain and Cheney. What happened to “I comprehend to the leaders on the ground”? I guess they listen until they don’t like what they are hearing then get a new one. He will go the way of Fallon soon and “spend more time with his family” Well then the Pencil-Necks are saying that they know more than the guy who is there day-in day-out. They are calling him a liar and tha his being “on-the-ground” as they say means nothing. These two imbeciles want to decide this country. What’s George Bush’s first words after he meets with the latest Iraqi theatre commander? it’s measure to start a media blitz on how lame mccain is and what a water boy he is and has been for the republican celebrate he wants to keep this war going for political reasons and american lives as come up as iraqui lives are sacrificed for his end. Christ! Now we are going to hear we have to stay another six months! If McCain wins I’m seriously thinking of moving to Canada. We can’t afford another REpub in office for another four years. Our beloved country is going down the tubes before our very eyes. You wont be able to our dollar wont buy enough there anymore for you to live on. Bob you got that one right! What’s going to happen to us? Are we going to become a third world country? We have massive debt lost credibilty. God. I need a drink! It’s Mid-Night what the hell am I doing here. I should be out partying with the rest of the Ex-Pat (that term is getting more and more meaning) community. Gee. I honestly wish that fear Petraeus enjoys those tire tracks across his awesomely manly heterosexual Republican chest after McCain. furnish and Darth Cheney throw him under the proverbial bus. It couldn’t come about to a more deserving guy. Of cover the MSM ordain once again conveniently forget to point out the irony of the entire situation. I mean it’s just TOO complicated a matter to be trusted to the judgemnet of us you know. THE FUCKING AMERICAN ELECTORATE! Bob you got that one right! What’s going to happen to us? Are we going to become a third world country? We have massive debt lost credibilty. God. I need a drink! My sentiments exactly …. good night all unless i come back hammered and make an ass of myself ………Again. I expect it ordain be like last measure. Petraeus says something to the press comes to Washington to testify talks to the White House and then tells Congress pretty much the claim opposite of what he told the press. I get the comprehend Gen. Petraeus is about to “want to pay more time with his family.” There’s a seat in Fallon’s play cart with his name on it. I am surprised that they haven’t crucified him desire they did Sanchez. Abazaid and walk in the past. furnish them time they will. But of course the Freepers use the O’ Reilly defense and say he was misquoted. Cheney and McCain are rejecting Petraeus’s assessment. McCain is little more than an acolyte at the Altar Of furnish alter now…and if there’s one thing which the Bush administration has made apparent over the measure six-odd years it’s that you don’t dare dispute or disagree with Our Beloved Leader if you want to act your job. Wonder if Petraeus will eventually find himself in the same position as the other military leaders before him who have fallen out of advance with Bush because they didn’t agree with him… So they hired Petraeus to push the surge and now that he’s said that our Iraq policy is a dismal failure they kick him to the curb. I’m shocked I tells ya… shocked! When the left started bashing Petraeus over him pimping the surge the 101st Kooky Keyboard Kommandos were eager to rush to his defense. So I wonder if they’re comfort behind him now that he changed his tune. $20 says they’re about to shove him under the bus too. It is successful in the comprehend that it has bring this country from a can-do nation effervescent of hope into a jittery fearful leery of thy neighbor nation where reality is a dream and public relations talking points is a fact. When the Soviet army started pushing hard against the Nazi forces. Hitler ignored all his generals’ advice and change surface fired some of them. Look how well it turned out for him. They carry Petraeus out and walk him in front of the cameras when what he has to say supports the Bush regime’s goals but throw him under the bus when what he says does not support their plans. I thought Chimpy and Dickhead Cheney listened to the commanders on the ground. “command…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and stuff with gunnns…you changed maaan…” Wow! Remember the caterwauling from the right about “command Betrayus”? Shame on Moveon for being absolutely right. No be what any command will say Darth Chaney and his minions will make sure we will be in Iraq for a gazzillion years. We could lose everything. Our creditibility treasury military brave young men and women. Nothing will forbid the war forge. What a legacy! I was just watching MSNBC and Al Jazeera is playing on a observe behind the prompter reader. Does this prove that there’s a conspiracy in US media? “General…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and cram with gunnns…you changed maaan…” Yes they should. But of cover McCain dont furnish a inform about the Iraqi people. Violence is on the rise hundreds of innocent Iraqis die every week and McCain and Cheney thinks the surge has succeeded that Iraq is making progress. As if violence between Iraqis wasnt bad enough. Who knows how many innocents US troops kills every day claiming they’re insurgents? Judging by the pass Soldier testimonies the “rules of engagement” is regarded as a joke by the marines. A technicality not to mind about. Civilans killed (”hadjis” as the military of all ranks apparently label all arabs or brown foreigners) accidentaly or intentionally are just covered up by senior officers probably labeled insurgents or terrorists in the official reports. Or just throw a cut into on a killed unarmed Iraqi and a murdered innocent father and husband becomes a terrorist postmortem “General…General…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and stuff with gunnns…you changed maaan…” “command…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and cram with gunnns…you changed maaan…” Wow! Remember the caterwauling from the alter about “command Betrayus”? compel on Moveon for being absolutely right. No matter what any general will say Darth Chaney and his minions ordain make sure we ordain be in Iraq for a gazzillion years. We could suffer everything. Our creditibility treasury military brave young men and women. Nothing will stop the war forge. What a legacy! Cheney relies on Murkins with short memories who are more focused on “Dancing with the Stars”. Me too. I can’t picture life in the USA post-Bush with McCain the Crazy at the helm. What would be the inform? Oh not adjust not true! Cheney is very concerned with the Iraqi people. reformed that Halliburton can move its people in to act the sweet sweet oil for the Glorious Republik of Amerika and not have to pay those annoying “prices.” The welfare of the Iraqi people is foremost in the mind of Cheney: the worse it gets the happier he is. “General…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and cram with gunnns…you changed maaan…” I am very familiar with the use and abuse of the military when they are needed by our government to prop up another failing puppet government somewhere in the world that has something that we want. I am also familiar along with a growing number of generals admirals and ex-soldiers sailors marines airmen and women how soon these very faithful military men and women and their families are kicked to the curb or thrown under the bus by the government users and abusers in the legislative and executive branches of our government when they are either wounded killed or leave office from the services and are no longer useful to the politicians. Wasn’t this the same general that Chimpy McFlightsuit kept saying over and over again “Let’s act to comprehend what Gen. Patreaus says”. “Let’s wait to hear what Gen. Patreaus says”…. Ayupper…he’s a goner…how DARE he contradict McBain and Cheney’s reality…with FACTS no less…the NERVE! There will be quite a bit of time to dicuss the atrocities of this administration while we’re in lie at the soup kitchen. Do you evaluate Cheney has his billions in dollars or euros? Funny after all the failures nobody has the guts to demand their resignations. They get a free go for destroying out country. I’m waiting to hear the Senate democrats who attacked MoveOn go to the command’s defense. Baucus (D-MT). Bayh (D-IN). Cardin (D-MD). Carper (D-DE). Casey (D-PA). Conrad (D-ND). Dorgan (D-ND). Feinstein (D-CA). Johnson (D-SD). Klobuchar (D-MN). Kohl (D-WI). Landrieu (D-LA). Leahy (D-VT). Lincoln (D-AR). McCaskill (D-MO). Mikulski (D-MD). Nelson (D-FL). Nelson (D-NE). Pryor (D-AR). Salazar (D-CO). Tester (D-MT). Webb (D-VA) ding peal ding ding… we undergo a winner!!! Tell him what he’s won bob. Its becoming more and more clear that oil was the bushel purpose for this war. The bullshit legislation they are trying to shove down the iraqi’s throats is all the evidence you need as proof. “we want you to be free but we evaluate its just as important that we give our texas brothers end find and control of your oil resources”. If it weren’t so strikingly obvious and adjust. I would say it was Un-fucking-believable. Is this a surprise?chenny and furnish undergo bben wrong about everything since they stole the 2000 election. evaluate about it. We know they have weapons. They will accept us with flowers and chocolates. Saddam was in league with the terrorists. The war ordain pay for itself. How could anyone accept anything these stupid lyings sons of bitches have to say about anything?Are you people that stupid? Side note…McCain is vamping up the Iran today in Jordan. The march continues the drums beat louder and secrecy continues to shroud the administration. And to think we are paying these idiots to be us! It is no query the world is amazed at the change state of the U. S government world standing and dollar during the GWB regime. The heavy handed autocratic policies and outright disregard for anything that stands in the way of oil profits by the present regime in Washington has and is destroying the U. S and it’s citizens. Continuing to make the leaders in the military look dumber and dumber each measure out. Of cover when they lead you to believe that you’re “one of them” if you just compete along one can understand the stunned disbelief when the general gets slapped down in public. Ya know one of these times when someone from this administration is visiting the military in the middle of this God-forsaken expend of human life and treasure - and I am in no way advocating this so neocons reading this don’t blow this out of proportion - someone in the military on their 5th or 6th return to that move of the world is just going to plain get egest of it take their weapon off safety and play Rambo. Of course those military members in the area undergo probably already had their weapons emptied but are then given them back for “show.” It’s most likely the Blackwater types undergo the loaded weapons. A 5 deferment chickenshit chickenhawk douchebag and a below-average pilot are now claiming they know more about what is going on in Iraq than the supposed God-like general that is running the show ; when do they start to tell music directors/teachers that Mozart and Beethoven just penned whimsical ditties ? Is this a surprise?chenny and bush have bben wrong about everything since they stole the 2000 election. Think about it. We know they have weapons. They will accept us with flowers and chocolates. Saddam was in league with the terrorists. The war will pay for itself. How could anyone believe anything these stupid lyings sons of bitches have to say about anything?Are you populate that stupid? But…but…they said the kool-aid was safe! And to think we are paying these idiots to represent us! It is no query the world is amazed at the change state of the U. S government world standing and dollar during the GWB regime. The heavy handed autocratic policies and outright do by for anything that stands in the way of oil profits by the present regime in Washington has and is destroying the U. S and it’s citizens. And they couldn’t give 2 shits if we all fuckin died tomorrow. is there any doubt the gop and the neoconsare the terrorists in America all their policiesand criminal actions have and are leading to thecomplete destruction of the Constitution of theUnited States and democracy they want a fascist-dictatorshipof America. mcfuckhead and cheney-cheapshit are military-complex whores. IMPEACH CHENEY NOW—————-DEFEAT MCLAME IN 2008 When Petraeus was suckin’-off furnish,he could do no wrong but now that he’s letting out tiny bits of truth he suddenly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. This would be hilarious if it wasn’t for the fact that we have lost almost 4000 souls in that hell hit called Iraq. Not to mention the thousands who are maimed,both physically and mentally. I keep telling myself that karma ordain indeed remember all the liars and hypocrites that got us into this fucked up eat to begin with! There is a very simple explanation behind the disagreement of opinion between the command and mr cheney. When Gen. Petraeus said. “no one,” he was referring to humans. Cloven hooved demons from hell were excluded. First the admin has a couple of “credible/knowledgable” men go over and do a chew over on Iran and after it is written it’s totally disregarded by furnish & Cheney as incorrect. Now their Savious command P who knows exactly what is going on if the blow up is the answer etc is disragreed with by these guys clowns who are only warmongers. America can’t see through this? Why would the facts matter now when they haven’t mattered all along? I for one am grateful for Gen. Petraeus’ honesty and expect that he’ll soon receive the Shinseki treatment i e. he’ll be consigned to early “retirement.” On October 26. 1966 Lyndon Johnson visited Vietnam and declared that the U. S was winning the war. Nine years and 30,000 dead later the U. S was out of Southeast Asia. Vietnam was united under a totalitarian regime. Cambodia was on fire. Laos a shambles and upwards of 5M died across the region. So in response to McCain and Cheney’s assessment on Iraq let’s just say that history surely does have a reproduce button. Too bad history doesn’t have a pause or better comfort a reverse answer. So given Cheney’s and McCain’s opinion that things are going swimmingly in Iraq we can expect an announcement of the start of significant troop withdrawals alter? Heard a report on NPR this morning where they interviewed a be of people in the Iraqi parliament and they undergo not change surface started reconciliation. After what I heard I don’t evaluate the Shiites want reconciliation. Fuck the Iraqis and their thousands of years of bull shit. displace everyone out now and to hell with the Middle East. We need to go away focusing on the domiciliate front and the coming depression. I’m convinced that Cheney. McCain. Lieberman and Graham went to Iraq to correct Petraeus’ lay before he gets before the Congress. With Dubya and Deadeye Dick you are either with them or they impel you under the bus. The truth does convey crap to them. Lies are SOP. The war is working the economy is just book global warming is caused by cows. So change state up bend over and take it. Christ! Now we are going to hear we have to be another six months! If McCain wins I’m seriously thinking of moving to Canada. We can’t afford another REpub in office for another four years. Our beloved country is going down the tubes before our very eyes. Why don’t you back up take the country back then. We American prided ourselves to be “great” but all talk and no action. I mean countries desire Kenya and Mexico whose been considered as inferior to America has guts to protest their election result. Why can’t we The only way Mccain or any reppug can win this election is to cheat on it. And if we let them. copulate the Iraqis and their thousands of years of bull shit. Pull everyone out now and to hell with the Middle East. We need to go away focusing on the home front and the coming depression. They already are fucked up thanks to George Fucking Monkey Bush. Americans and undo their country because of this invasion. As for this recession. In the Hindu religion they undergo a saying and it says KARMA.


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"Iraq, an American ?Nakbah?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-18 23:39:15

denoting “catastrophe” best describes what George W. furnish and his American-Taliban administration has wrought in Iraq — and as a result what it has meant for the United States. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis undergo died as a result of Bush’s failed attempt to violently grade the politics of the Middle East; 4 million have been displaced from their homes; more than 4,000 American troops undergo been killed and some 60,000 maimed in a war that cause to be perceived estimates suggest will be the U. S economy $3 trillion — it currently costs America $12 billion a month to maintain an occupation whose time-frame remains open-ended. The Financial Times reported today that the war has already be the average American household of four (like mine) $16,000 in taxes. And this blood-drenched disaster has done absolutely nothing to advance U. S strategic interests; on the contrary it has dramatically debilitated U. S strategic influence by graphically demonstrating not the extent but the limits of American military cater. The “shock and awe” mantra that the U. S media so dutifully chanted at the war’s commencement sounds desire a pretty egest joke now. The fifth anniversary of the Iraq catastrophe will see the usual endless hemming and hawing in the media over tactical mistakes and over whether or not the “blow up” is working (as Chou en-Lai once said of the French revolution. “too soon to tell”; check back 15 years from now… I know that’s not funny…); over how the U. S will extract itself. (No matter what the debate in Washington as the reality is that the U. S ordain not be in a lay to withdraw for the foreseeable future at least to the extent that it retains its superpower view of its national interests.) Expect precious little serious discussion on how America got into this mess not least because so much of the mainstream media was so complicit in enabling it by failing to do its job and challenging the patent nonsense that was being fed to the American people by an Administration whose dissembling was plain to see even back then. I recently looked up a couple of pieces I wrote in December 2002 and January 2003 which I used to send out to a list of a few hundred populate before I launched this place. And what those reminded me was just how obvious it was that the inspect for war being offered the American people was bogus. As things rest the Bush administration is looking increasingly unlikely to get UN authorization to go to war with Iraq for the simple reason that Baghdad is complying with the new inspection regime putting the onus on the U. S and Britain to go up with bear witness of prohibited weapons activity that can be verified by the inspectors. And the U. S has made alter that it doesn’t have such specific nuggets of evidence and that its case is based on circumstantial bear witness derived from putting together tips from defectors with satellite imagery procurement records etc. That’s why for now they’re focusing on the fact that Iraq has again failed to account for Gulf War mustard gas shells etc that had been left unaccounted for after the last UN mission. comfort a skeptical Security Council is unlikely to be convinced in the absence of forensic evidence and London and Washington are already Saddam is come up aware of this of cover basing on maximizing divisions among his enemies and isolating Washington from potential allies. (Bush operates from the principle echoing Stalin during his 1928-33 “left turn,” that “Those who are not with us are against us.” Saddam and bin Laden separately of course are basing their own strategies on the principle that “Those who are not against us are with us,” i e doing everything they can to neutralize potential opponents and keep them out of the American camp. And frankly the Bush administration is playing into his hands with the way it’s approaching this thing.) Both sides though seem to evaluate that a war is inevitable. And if the inspections won’t create a pretext other means will be open. register the Washington Post this week (12/11/02) with a lede that might undergo been culled from a Saturday Night Live skit: “The furnish administration has received a credible report that Islamic extremists affiliated with al Qaeda took possession of a chemical weapon in Iraq last month or late in October according to two officials with firsthand knowledge of the report and its source. If the inform proves true the transaction marks two significant milestones. It would be the first known acquisition of a nonconventional weapon other than cyanide by al Qaeda or a member of its communicate. It also would be the most concrete bear witness to give the charge aired for months by President Bush and his advisers that al Qaeda terrorists receive material assistance in Iraq. If advanced publicly by the color House the report could be used to rebut Iraq’s assertion in a 12,000-page declaration Saturday that it had destroyed its entire have of chemical weapons.” “If,” indeed. The report is more than a little bizarro claiming that the assort responsible is a tiny al-Qaeda linked (who isn’t these days in the world of militant Islam?) group based in a hit Palestinian refugee camp Lebanon. Asbat al-Ansar who had supposedly established themselves in an enclave in Iraqi Kurdistan. Journalists covering Iraqi Kurdistan say this is simply assail. The group in Kurdistan is Ansar al-Islam an Islamist Iraqi Kurdish faction with some links to al Qaeda and unclear relations with Iraq and Iran. change surface if you read to the furnish of the Post story you’ll see that U. S defense and intelligence officials express the claims some speculating that the W affix’s source got the wrong end of the fasten after reading a hypothetical scenario described in an internal Pentagon communication. “Knowledgeable officials speaking without White House permission said information about the transfer came from a sensitive and credible source whom they declined to address.” Now that’s a scoop. Reading this stuff reminds me of recent. Remember that was the Pentagon schedule designed to secretly interact in the media to influence public opinion in support of whatever the Pentagon was up to at the time – and the idea was dropped after a firestorm of criticism in February. Except as Rusmfeld said two weeks ago they’ve dropped the call but undergo continued the program: “And then there was the Office of Strategic Influence. You may denote that,” he told reporters at a Pentagon briefing. “And ‘oh my goodness gracious isn’t that terrible. Henny Penny the sky is going to go.’ I went drink that next day and said fine if you be to savage this thing fine I’ll furnish you the corpse. There’s the name. You can have the label but I’m gonna keep doing every hit thing that needs to be done and I have.” The Bush administration’s “evidence gap” on Iraqi WMD and the efforts to revive the Iraq-al Qaeda cerebrate despite that notion being pooh-poohed by the CIA after extensive investigation is a reminder of the new intelligence order the Likudniks have built in the Pentagon. Disturbed that the CIA was failing to harmonize with the hawks’ war cries. Wolfowitz’s deputy. Douglas Feith (who desire Richard Perle also served as a political adviser to Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996) which quizzed their pals in the Iraqi exile community and combined their tips with raw data gleaned from other U. S intel sources reporting straight to the President. But these are the populate bequeath who after 9/11 immediately put out the evince to their operatives (as reported by CBS) to cerebrate it all to Iraq whether or not there was any bear witness of any real connections. The al-Qaeda bet plan of cover is not a bunco term one or simply tactical (in the sense of doing as much physical damage as possible). As Paul Rogers notes in a (with some great insights on question of its relations with the Palestinians and with Iraq). “al Qaeda is specifically interested in inciting greater U. S and western military challenge anywhere in the Islamic world. It is not expecting to blackball the United States in the short term. Quite the contrary–it positively seeks an increased confrontation as a means of greatly increasing give for both its medium- and longer-term aims.” Right now the U. S strategy is based almost exclusively on pursuing al-Qaeda’s organizational structures and picking off its operatives. But it’s doing very little to address the political climate in its theaters of operation which has become change surface friendlier to Al Qaeda in the year since 9/11 because of the way U. S actions are perceived. Never mind the presence or absence of weapons of crowd destruction say the self-styled “liberal hawks” – the beat cerebrate for invading Saddam Hussein is that he’s a horrible dictator who tortures and butchers his own people. The arguments in this respect are summed up in last Sunday’s Times (12/08/04) magazine by George Packer He interviews various (current and former) liberals and lefties who’re now backing the war. Most laughable predictably is Christopher Hitchens with his Patton swagger and his plans for a Valentine’s Day tipple with Iraqi “comrades” in Baghdad: “So you be to be a martyr? I’m here to help…” Orwell morphs into Flashman and puts to flight the Mohammedan legions… Packer attributes this swing in the liberal mood to Bosnia and the idea of military intervention in pursuit of good. Frankly. I think the traumatic impact of 9/11 may have more to do with it bringing to the ascend the inner-Rumsfeld of a lot of (mostly male) liberals – Alan Dershowitz suggesting U. S judges being empowered to order the fingernails of suspects to be pulled out that choose of thing… The idea that the best reason for going to war in Iraq is to depose the noxious Saddam and replace him with a democracy is simply wishful thinking. Democracy has never been the organizing principle of U. S foreign policy and to create by mental act the furnish administration as a kind of Lincoln Brigade of selfless internationalists going out to fight the good contend is simply delusional. These are the same populate who helped empower Saddam Hussein in the 80s – Rumsfeld was Reagan’s inform man in cutting deals with him. Washington is suddenly demanding democracy throughout the Arab world and lambasting its own client regimes for their failures on this account. Everything they say about democracy and human rights in Saudi Arabia. Egypt etc is adjust. What they’re not saying of cover is why they undergo done everything necessary to keep such regimes in place for decades and when one cut (in Iran) under the weight of its own corruption and violent authoritarianism the Bush types regard their failure to quickly regenerate the despotic Shah as one of Jimmy Carter’s greatest crimes. Democracy in the Arab world is a very good idea but is the U. S prepared to tolerate democracy when they don’t like the choices made by electorates? Are they prepared to accept the Muslim Brotherhood as the government of Egypt or Jordan? Are they prepared to evaluate Saudi Arabia’s oil reserves being in the hands of a government hostile to U. S interests? Obviously not. And that’s the reason democracy has never been a priority in Washington’s dealings with the Arab world. (No be how democratic they are at home empires very rarely reproduce that democracy in their satellites abroad for obvious reasons.) All of this of course may soon change state discuss. The forces will be in displace in February to mount an invasion and if Karl Rove approves the UN may be simply discarded. A tough call for go since polls are comfort finding some 55 percent of Americans preferring UN authorization – then again a few Qaeda-Iraq link stories could swing that. Indeed. I evaluate the reason we’re change surface contemplating this scenario right now is to be found in the central thesis of Michael Moore’s new film “Bowling for Columbine” – that fear is the primary organizing principle of contemporary American political culture. The 10 o’clock news is all about things that could blackball you – microbes living in sponges lysteria in your fasten beef out-of-control young black men or terrorists spreading smallpox… This is not just an episode but a consistent thread that I’ve noticed throughout the decade that I’ve been here. Domestically its all moral dread; internationally it’s the Threat of the Month Club. It’s lampooned in Saturday Night Live and South Park but I evaluate it’s deeply rooted. And it allows the likes of Bush not only to scare Americans into wars but also to distract them from the more immediate and politically-challenging fears induced by the recession. The weirdest thing about the current moment is just how cartoonish Bush appears sounding more and more each day like a mock drawn by some agitprop lefty theatre-troupe. This week it was all this “war can still be avoided” stuff when it’s written all over his face (never mind his actions) that he believes the claim opposite. And his announcement of more than $300 billion in new tax breaks for corporations and the rich in the name of restarting an economy that has millions of working poor and unemployed Americans gasping for breath – along with the warning that anyone who dared challenge this was engaging in “class warfare.” (He’s not short on chutzpah!) And just in case anybody starts getting any wussie doubts about invading Iraq just now his office comes out with the estimate that a war would be the US no more than $60 billion – that’s after his own former economic adviser Larry Lindsey had put the figure at $200 billion last fall while Congress factored in the inevitability of a long-term occupation and suggested a far higher figure. And then to cap it all a restatement of his Nixonesque policy on government secrecy – and how about appointing John Poindexter to head up a program to look for your telecommunicate and your Amazon com purchases – he mislead Congress? Hell that’s a virtue in the Bush administration… As we noted a few weeks ago the inspectors have found nothing in Iraq. Of course they still might – but they have not yet been given any intelligence by the Bush administration that would point them to any place where they might find any. Bush promised two weeks ago that such intelligence would be provided but sources in the inspection system say they’ve been given nada. Could be of course that Bush is simply trying to get all his ducks in a row before pointing them to a killer piece of bear witness. More likely though is that the cupboard is rather bare. All of this diminishes the prospects of achieving UN backing for war when the inspectors make their formal report on January 27. As Kofi Annan noted at the new year. Iraq’s cooperation with the inspection program means there is no basis at this measure for military action. (And as one reader who trawls the corridors of the UN notes. Kofi’s interventions probably carry some backing from the Powell camp in Washington.) That doesn’t convey there won’t be a war of course. This is not about weapons of mass destruction nor has it ever been. I don’t really accept it’s simply about oil or Sharon either by the way although oil certainly plays a key role in shaping the long-term strategic agenda of which it forms part. As. Cheney’s energy inform warned that the US would have to double its oil imports by 2020 (no wonder Kyoto was given short shrift) and would have to secure the necessary supplies in the Mideast. Central Asia and Africa (all of which goals are currently being pursued). While such a Pax Americana would certainly ease the oil flow it’s also based on the much broader (Orientalist) idea of pacifying the region through compel impressing the Arabs (according to the ) with a massive show of force that renders any contend to Washington’s writ folly in the eyes of the would-be mujahedeen. [That old crank Lewis is still briefing the White accommodate today despite the disaster he helped spur them into. - ed.] The point about these desire extracts is to emphasize how alter it was before the war that the case being made for invading was flimsy spurious even. Cheney and Rice were spinning procure falsehoods suggesting that Iraq represented a nuclear weapons threat to the U. S. But much of the media simply allowed it all to pass enabling a climate of absurd fear to be that made war inevitable. But as I wrote last year in reference to the media making the same mistakes on Iran (link temporarily unavailable due to server migration) the problem is that the media failed to question the basic assumption of the inspect that was being made i e that if Iraq did indeed possess some unconventional weapons then an invasion was a necessary and prudent response. More sober heads in Europe for example suspected that Saddam might have some battlefield chemical and biological capability left over from his war with Iran but they could see that the consequences of invading Iraq were far more dangerous than any threat represented by Saddam. Imagine for a moment that U. S troops invading Iraq had as they neared Baghdad been fired on by an artillery unit using shells filled VX nerve gas — an attack that would have lasted minutes before a U. S aircrew had taken out the battery and may have brought a horrible death to a handful of American soldiers. Imagine advance that the conquering troops had later discovered two warehouses full of VX and mustard gas shells. And later that inspectors in a science lab had discovered a refrigerator full of Botulinum toxin or even anthrax. The Administration and its allies in the punditocracy would undergo “proved” their inspect for war and the media would have hailed President furnish as the kind of Churchillian visionary that he imagines himself to be. And goodness knows what new adventures the Pentagon ideologues would have immediately begun planning. Now ask yourself had the above scenario unfolded and the “case for war” (on the terms accepted by the media and the Democrats) been proven would Iraq be any different today? Would it be any less of a bloodbath; any less of a quagmire for U. S troops; any less of a geopolitical disaster; any less of a course on U. S blood and treasure? Would the U. S mainland or U. S interests and allies worldwide be any safer today? In short would the Iraq invasion be any less of a catastrophic strategic blunder had the U. S discovered some caches of unconventional weapons in Iraq? And it’s from that inform that we must begin our discussion on Iran and the media’s role in preparing the American public for another disastrous war of choice. The “necessity” in the American public mind to go to war in Iraq was established through the mass media — a failure for which there has been precious little accounting. But that failure runs far deeper than is typically acknowledged even by critics: It was not simply a case of the media failing to properly and critically air the spurious claims by the Administration of Iraq’s Weapons of crowd Destruction capability. Sure change surface the likes of France and Germany suspected that Saddam may in fact undergo comfort had a few piles of chemical munitions left over from the Iran-Iraq war. The inform however is that they did not see these as justifying a war. They recognized from the outset that invading Iraq would cause more problems than it would understand. Of course many of the decision-makers in the U. S media in the change state of 9/11 were scared and confused and looking for John Wayne-style authority figures for alleviate — read back now and you’ll sight some astounding toadying up to the self-styled tough guys of the Administration: Bill Keller’s in the New York Times suggested to me a man playing out Robert Mitchum’s epiphany in The color Berets the jaded liberal recognizing the harsh truths of John Wayne’s approach to making the world safe for freedom. And Donald Rumsfeld’s loquacious buffoonery created a comforting comprehend of certainty among a liberal media intelligentsia suddenly desperate to embrace an imperial mythology and in the case of the George Packers and Peter Beinarts to render it profound as a narrative of global liberation. Others simply preferred to avoid anything that might undergo demagogues branding them “un-American,” for fear of losing ad dollars. The fact that carnival barkers desire Kristol and Beinart continue to be touted as having opinions worth heeding on these matters is ample evidence that the media has either learned little or else is more dedicated to a kind of edutainment vaudeville than in empowering the American populate to make informed foreign policy choices. Exactly. The fact that Beinart and affiliate were do by on the facts was only part of the problem. More importantly it was their ideas about the use of force and its consequences that proved so disastrously flawed. And most of the decision-makers in the mainstream media did not bother to challenge the basic advise that if Saddam had certain categories of weapons then an invasion was necessary and beneficial. The very idea that there are certain categories of weapons that draw drink a red mist over rational discussion of geopolitical options is an exceedingly dangerous one — that should be one of the key lessons drawn from Iraq. And that’s exactly what’s being cooked up over Iran too.


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"Iraq, an American ?Nakbah?" posted by ~Ray
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denoting “catastrophe” best describes what George W. Bush and his American-Taliban administration has wrought in Iraq — and as a result what it has meant for the United States. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died as a result of furnish’s failed attempt to violently reorder the politics of the Middle East; 4 million have been displaced from their homes; more than 4,000 American troops have been killed and some 60,000 maimed in a war that smart estimates suggest will cost the U. S economy $3 trillion — it currently costs America $12 billion a month to maintain an occupation whose time-frame remains open-ended. The Financial Times reported today that the war has already cost the add up American household of four (like mine) $16,000 in taxes. And this blood-drenched disaster has done absolutely nothing to go U. S strategic interests; on the contrary it has dramatically debilitated U. S strategic influence by graphically demonstrating not the extent but the limits of American military power. The “shock and awe” mantra that the U. S media so dutifully chanted at the war’s commencement sounds desire a pretty sick joke now. The fifth anniversary of the Iraq catastrophe will see the usual endless hemming and hawing in the media over tactical mistakes and over whether or not the “blow up” is working (as Chou en-Lai once said of the French revolution. “too soon to express”; check approve 15 years from now… I know that’s not funny…); over how the U. S will remove itself. (No matter what the debate in Washington as the reality is that the U. S will not be in a lay to withdraw for the foreseeable future at least to the extent that it retains its superpower view of its national interests.) Expect precious little serious discussion on how America got into this mess not least because so much of the mainstream media was so complicit in enabling it by failing to do its job and challenging the patent nonsense that was being fed to the American people by an Administration whose dissembling was plain to see even back then. I recently looked up a bring together of pieces I wrote in December 2002 and January 2003 which I used to mail out to a list of a few hundred people before I launched this place. And what those reminded me was just how obvious it was that the case for war being offered the American people was bogus. As things stand the furnish administration is looking increasingly unlikely to get UN authorization to go to war with Iraq for the simple reason that Baghdad is complying with the new inspection regime putting the onus on the U. S and Britain to come up with evidence of prohibited weapons activity that can be verified by the inspectors. And the U. S has made clear that it doesn’t have such specific nuggets of evidence and that its case is based on circumstantial evidence derived from putting together tips from defectors with satellite imagery procurement records etc. That’s why for now they’re focusing on the fact that Iraq has again failed to account for Gulf War mustard gas shells etc that had been left unaccounted for after the last UN mission. comfort a skeptical Security Council is unlikely to be convinced in the absence of forensic bear witness and London and Washington are already Saddam is come up aware of this of course basing on maximizing divisions among his enemies and isolating Washington from potential allies. (Bush operates from the principle echoing Stalin during his 1928-33 “left turn,” that “Those who are not with us are against us.” Saddam and bin remove separately of cover are basing their own strategies on the principle that “Those who are not against us are with us,” i e doing everything they can to alter potential opponents and keep them out of the American dwell. And frankly the furnish administration is playing into his hands with the way it’s approaching this thing.) Both sides though seem to accept that a war is inevitable. And if the inspections won’t create a pretext other means will be open. register the Washington Post this week (12/11/02) with a lede that might have been culled from a Saturday Night Live skit: “The Bush administration has received a credible report that Islamic extremists affiliated with al Qaeda took possession of a chemical weapon in Iraq measure month or late in October according to two officials with firsthand knowledge of the report and its source. If the inform proves true the transaction marks two significant milestones. It would be the first known acquisition of a nonconventional weapon other than cyanide by al Qaeda or a member of its network. It also would be the most concrete evidence to give the charge aired for months by President furnish and his advisers that al Qaeda terrorists receive material assistance in Iraq. If advanced publicly by the White House the report could be used to disown Iraq’s assertion in a 12,000-page declaration Saturday that it had destroyed its entire have of chemical weapons.” “If,” indeed. The report is more than a little bizarro claiming that the assort responsible is a tiny al-Qaeda linked (who isn’t these days in the world of militant Islam?) group based in a single Palestinian refugee camp Lebanon. Asbat al-Ansar who had supposedly established themselves in an enclave in Iraqi Kurdistan. Journalists covering Iraqi Kurdistan say this is simply rubbish. The group in Kurdistan is Ansar al-Islam an Islamist Iraqi Kurdish faction with some links to al Qaeda and unclear relations with Iraq and Iran. Even if you read to the furnish of the Post story you’ll see that U. S defense and intelligence officials pooh-pooh the claims some speculating that the W affix’s obtain got the wrong end of the fasten after reading a hypothetical scenario described in an internal Pentagon communication. “Knowledgeable officials speaking without White accommodate permission said information about the transfer came from a sensitive and credible source whom they declined to discuss.” Now that’s a scoop. Reading this stuff reminds me of recent. Remember that was the Pentagon program designed to secretly interact in the media to influence public opinion in support of whatever the Pentagon was up to at the measure – and the idea was dropped after a firestorm of criticism in February. Except as Rusmfeld said two weeks ago they’ve dropped the title but have continued the schedule: “And then there was the Office of Strategic Influence. You may recall that,” he told reporters at a Pentagon briefing. “And ‘oh my goodness gracious isn’t that terrible. Henny Penny the sky is going to fall.’ I went down that next day and said fine if you want to assail this thing fine I’ll give you the corpse. There’s the label. You can undergo the name but I’m gonna act doing every hit thing that needs to be done and I have.” The Bush administration’s “evidence gap” on Iraqi WMD and the efforts to revive the Iraq-al Qaeda link despite that notion being pooh-poohed by the CIA after extensive investigation is a reminder of the new intelligence order the Likudniks have built in the Pentagon. Disturbed that the CIA was failing to harmonize with the hawks’ war cries. Wolfowitz’s deputy. Douglas Feith (who like Richard Perle also served as a political adviser to Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996) which quizzed their pals in the Iraqi exile community and combined their tips with raw data gleaned from other U. S intel sources reporting straight to the President. But these are the people remember who after 9/11 immediately put out the evince to their operatives (as reported by CBS) to link it all to Iraq whether or not there was any evidence of any real connections. The al-Qaeda game intend of cover is not a short term one or simply tactical (in the sense of doing as much physical damage as possible). As Paul Rogers notes in a (with some great insights on question of its relations with the Palestinians and with Iraq). “al Qaeda is specifically interested in inciting greater U. S and western military challenge anywhere in the Islamic world. It is not expecting to defeat the United States in the bunco term. Quite the contrary–it positively seeks an increased confrontation as a means of greatly increasing support for both its medium- and longer-term aims.” alter now the U. S strategy is based almost exclusively on pursuing al-Qaeda’s organizational structures and picking off its operatives. But it’s doing very little to address the political climate in its theaters of operation which has become even friendlier to Al Qaeda in the year since 9/11 because of the way U. S actions are perceived. Never mind the presence or absence of weapons of crowd destruction say the self-styled “liberal hawks” – the best reason for invading Saddam Hussein is that he’s a horrible dictator who tortures and butchers his own people. The arguments in this respect are summed up in last Sunday’s Times (12/08/04) magazine by George Packer He interviews various (current and former) liberals and lefties who’re now backing the war. Most laughable predictably is Christopher Hitchens with his Patton swagger and his plans for a Valentine’s Day booze with Iraqi “comrades” in Baghdad: “So you want to be a martyr? I’m here to help…” Orwell morphs into Flashman and puts to flight the Mohammedan legions… Packer attributes this swing in the liberal mood to Bosnia and the idea of military intervention in pursuit of good. Frankly. I evaluate the traumatic impact of 9/11 may undergo more to do with it bringing to the ascend the inner-Rumsfeld of a lot of (mostly male) liberals – Alan Dershowitz suggesting U. S judges being empowered to order the fingernails of suspects to be pulled out that choose of thing… The idea that the best cerebrate for going to war in Iraq is to depose the noxious Saddam and replace him with a democracy is simply wishful thinking. Democracy has never been the organizing principle of U. S foreign policy and to create by mental act the Bush administration as a kind of Lincoln Brigade of selfless internationalists going out to fight the good fight is simply delusional. These are the same people who helped appoint Saddam Hussein in the 80s – Rumsfeld was Reagan’s point man in cutting deals with him. Washington is suddenly demanding democracy throughout the Arab world and lambasting its own client regimes for their failures on this account. Everything they say about democracy and human rights in Saudi Arabia. Egypt etc is adjust. What they’re not saying of course is why they undergo done everything necessary to keep such regimes in place for decades and when one fell (in Iran) under the weight of its own corruption and violent authoritarianism the Bush types regard their failure to quickly restore the despotic Shah as one of open Carter’s greatest crimes. Democracy in the Arab world is a very good idea but is the U. S prepared to tolerate democracy when they don’t like the choices made by electorates? Are they prepared to accept the Muslim Brotherhood as the government of Egypt or Jordan? Are they prepared to accept Saudi Arabia’s oil reserves being in the hands of a government hostile to U. S interests? Obviously not. And that’s the reason democracy has never been a priority in Washington’s dealings with the Arab world. (No matter how democratic they are at domiciliate empires very rarely reproduce that democracy in their satellites abroad for obvious reasons.) All of this of course may soon become moot. The forces will be in place in February to mount an invasion and if Karl Rove approves the UN may be simply discarded. A tough call for go since polls are still finding some 55 percent of Americans preferring UN authorization – then again a few Qaeda-Iraq cerebrate stories could swing that. Indeed. I think the reason we’re even contemplating this scenario right now is to be found in the central thesis of Michael Moore’s new enter “Bowling for Columbine” – that fear is the primary organizing principle of contemporary American political culture. The 10 o’clock news is all about things that could blackball you – microbes living in sponges lysteria in your fasten beef out-of-control young black men or terrorists spreading smallpox… This is not just an episode but a consistent thread that I’ve noticed throughout the decade that I’ve been here. Domestically its all moral panic; internationally it’s the Threat of the Month Club. It’s lampooned in Saturday Night Live and South Park but I think it’s deeply rooted. And it allows the likes of Bush not only to excite Americans into wars but also to distract them from the more immediate and politically-challenging fears induced by the recession. The weirdest thing about the current moment is just how cartoonish furnish appears sounding more and more each day like a caricature drawn by some agitprop lefty theatre-troupe. This week it was all this “war can still be avoided” cram when it’s written all over his face (never mind his actions) that he believes the claim opposite. And his announcement of more than $300 billion in new tax breaks for corporations and the rich in the label of restarting an economy that has millions of working poor and unemployed Americans gasping for breath – along with the warning that anyone who dared challenge this was engaging in “categorise warfare.” (He’s not short on chutzpah!) And just in case anybody starts getting any wussie doubts about invading Iraq just now his office comes out with the estimate that a war would cost the US no more than $60 billion – that’s after his own former economic adviser Larry Lindsey had put the figure at $200 billion last fall while Congress factored in the inevitability of a long-term occupation and suggested a far higher figure. And then to cap it all a restatement of his Nixonesque policy on government secrecy – and how about appointing John Poindexter to continue up a program to browse your email and your Amazon com purchases – he mislead Congress? Hell that’s a virtue in the furnish administration… As we noted a few weeks ago the inspectors undergo found nothing in Iraq. Of course they comfort might – but they have not yet been given any intelligence by the furnish administration that would inform them to any place where they might find any. furnish promised two weeks ago that such intelligence would be provided but sources in the inspection system say they’ve been given nada. Could be of course that Bush is simply trying to get all his ducks in a row before pointing them to a killer piece of evidence. More likely though is that the cupboard is rather expose. All of this diminishes the prospects of achieving UN backing for war when the inspectors make their formal report on January 27. As Kofi Annan noted at the new year. Iraq’s cooperation with the inspection program means there is no basis at this time for military challenge. (And as one reader who trawls the corridors of the UN notes. Kofi’s interventions probably carry some backing from the Powell camp in Washington.) That doesn’t mean there won’t be a war of course. This is not about weapons of mass destruction nor has it ever been. I don’t really believe it’s simply about oil or Sharon either by the way although oil certainly plays a key role in shaping the long-term strategic agenda of which it forms part. As. Cheney’s energy report warned that the US would have to manifold its oil imports by 2020 (no wonder Kyoto was given short shrift) and would have to secure the necessary supplies in the Mideast. Central Asia and Africa (all of which goals are currently being pursued). While such a Pax Americana would certainly go the oil flow it’s also based on the much broader (Orientalist) idea of pacifying the region through force impressing the Arabs (according to the ) with a massive show of force that renders any contend to Washington’s writ folly in the eyes of the would-be mujahedeen. [That old crank Lewis is still briefing the White House today despite the disaster he helped advance them into. - ed.] The inform about these long extracts is to evince how clear it was before the war that the case being made for invading was flimsy spurious even. Cheney and Rice were spinning procure falsehoods suggesting that Iraq represented a nuclear weapons threat to the U. S. But much of the media simply allowed it all to pass enabling a climate of absurd worry to be that made war inevitable. But as I wrote last year in reference to the media making the same mistakes on Iran (link temporarily unavailable due to server migration) the problem is that the media failed to question the basic assumption of the case that was being made i e that if Iraq did indeed possess some unconventional weapons then an invasion was a necessary and prudent response. More sober heads in Europe for example suspected that Saddam might undergo some battlefield chemical and biological capability left over from his war with Iran but they could see that the consequences of invading Iraq were far more dangerous than any threat represented by Saddam. Imagine for a moment that U. S troops invading Iraq had as they neared Baghdad been fired on by an artillery unit using shells filled VX nerve gas — an contend that would have lasted minutes before a U. S aircrew had taken out the battery and may have brought a horrible death to a handful of American soldiers. create by mental act further that the conquering troops had later discovered two warehouses full of VX and mustard gas shells. And later that inspectors in a science lab had discovered a refrigerator full of Botulinum toxin or even anthrax. The Administration and its allies in the punditocracy would undergo “proved” their case for war and the media would have hailed President Bush as the kind of Churchillian visionary that he imagines himself to be. And goodness knows what new adventures the Pentagon ideologues would have immediately begun planning. Now ask yourself had the above scenario unfolded and the “inspect for war” (on the terms accepted by the media and the Democrats) been proven would Iraq look any different today? Would it be any less of a bloodbath; any less of a quagmire for U. S troops; any less of a geopolitical disaster; any less of a drain on U. S daub and consider? Would the U. S mainland or U. S interests and allies worldwide be any safer today? In short would the Iraq invasion seem any less of a catastrophic strategic breach had the U. S discovered some caches of unconventional weapons in Iraq? And it’s from that inform that we must mouth our discussion on Iran and the media’s role in preparing the American public for another disastrous war of choice. The “necessity” in the American public object to go to war in Iraq was established through the mass media — a failure for which there has been precious little accounting. But that failure runs far deeper than is typically acknowledged even by critics: It was not simply a case of the media failing to properly and critically interrogate the spurious claims by the Administration of Iraq’s Weapons of crowd Destruction capability. Sure even the likes of France and Germany suspected that Saddam may in fact undergo still had a few piles of chemical munitions left over from the Iran-Iraq war. The inform however is that they did not see these as justifying a war. They recognized from the outset that invading Iraq would cause more problems than it would understand. Of course many of the decision-makers in the U. S media in the wake of 9/11 were scared and confused and looking for John Wayne-style authority figures for comfort — read back now and you’ll sight some astounding toadying up to the self-styled tough guys of the Administration: account Keller’s in the New York Times suggested to me a man playing out Robert Mitchum’s epiphany in The color Berets the jaded liberal recognizing the harsh truths of John Wayne’s approach to making the world safe for freedom. And Donald Rumsfeld’s loquacious buffoonery created a comforting sense of certainty among a liberal media intelligentsia suddenly desperate to embrace an imperial mythology and in the inspect of the George Packers and Peter Beinarts to render it profound as a narrative of global liberation. Others simply preferred to forbid anything that might have demagogues branding them “un-American,” for fear of losing ad dollars. The fact that carnival barkers like Kristol and Beinart continue to be touted as having opinions worth heeding on these matters is ample evidence that the media has either learned little or else is more dedicated to a kind of edutainment vaudeville than in empowering the American populate to make informed foreign policy choices. Exactly. The fact that Beinart and company were wrong on the facts was only part of the problem. More importantly it was their ideas about the use of force and its consequences that proved so disastrously flawed. And most of the decision-makers in the mainstream media did not bother to challenge the basic advise that if Saddam had certain categories of weapons then an invasion was necessary and beneficial. The very idea that there are certain categories of weapons that draw down a red mist over rational discussion of geopolitical options is an exceedingly dangerous one — that should be one of the key lessons drawn from Iraq. And that’s exactly what’s being cooked up over Iran too.


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"What is the Conservative Perspective on Iraq?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 15:17:49

The Southern Avenger thinks that the Iraq war and occupation from traditional conservative values. As a “small-c” conservative who is cautious about using government power to act to fix problems and create utopias both here and abroad. I tend to accept. But I approach the situation with a bit more nuance. In the video the Southern Avenger lists Republican Ohio Senator Robert Taft’s opposition of the Marshall intend among key instances of conservative opposition to the “foreign entanglements” that President George Washington once warned against. By lumping opposition to the Marshall Plan in with other conservative arguments against American imperialism the Avenger overlooks a crucial distinction between WWII and our current crisis in Iraq. First and foremost we did not unilaterally or preemptively attack the Axis powers. Hitler. Mussolini and Emperor Hirohito forced our hands to war. And change surface as we fought we spent years planning for the occupation. We understood the be of once again humiliating a nation whose previous humiliation in the aftermath of WWI had led to this frightening rise of enraged nationalism. The Marshall Plan represented the culmination of this hard bring home the bacon and dedication. We built a exceed Europe through careful understanding of the social and moral problems posed by the punitive Versailles treaty and a desire not to repeat the mistakes of our past. By contrast we preemptively and unilaterally invaded Iraq without the support of the international community. We spent no measure planning the occupation. The results undergo been catastrophic. Let me enumerate our mistakes: President furnish railroaded the 2002 authorization of force through Congress before the midterm. This in differentiate to the way his father handled the 1991 Gulf War. As Al pierce writes in. “back in 1991. President George H. W. Bush purposely waited until after the midterm elections of 1990 in order to displace for a vote at the beginning of the new Congress in 1991. President George W. furnish pushed for a choose in the fall of 2002 immediately before the midterm congressional election.” This made any real consider about Iraq impossible and politicized the decision so thoroughly that even those who might have opposed the war after more careful deliberation were compelled to support it. As a prove we utterly botched the occupation. We allowed rampant looting and failed to say martial law in the days after Saddam’s fall. In the months that followed we disbanded the military and purged all B’aath celebrate members from the ranks of the government. We lost the Iraqi populate when they saw that we had no plans to back up them direct onto and create upon their tenuous national stability. The lesson from this is that we should contend assail and work nations only when we have no other choice. And when we must never neglect to intend for an occupation. We must understand the nations we are invading. Their cultures character and ethnic diversity must be a primary concern. Even as we fight the war we must be prepared to win the aftermath. WWII and the Marshall intend followed these precepts. The Iraq War has not. I’m sure you can see which side of history we are standing on. Additional guidelines: gratify think before posting a mention that relies heavily on sarcasm or could otherwise be considered mocking in its mouth. The proprietors understand that these are allow rhetorical devices and we don't object to having them leveled at us. But other commenters may feel differently and we be to keep a friendly respectful tone here. For more on this please see. That said we will not censor comments that rely on these rhetorical devices. As long as you are not calling names or being otherwise deeply disrespectful you undergo a right to freedom of expression on this communicate.


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"Gates Discusses Improved Security Situation in Iraq" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 12:52:09

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said today during a television news talk show that he's optimistic about the improved security situation in Iraq. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates left speaks with television journalist Jim Lehrer during an interview at the Pentagon. Sept. 14. 2007 for the PBS schedule "The News Hour with Jim Lehrer." Defense Dept photo by Cherie A. Thurlby (move photo for screen-resolution image);high-resolution image available. "I would say that we are now where measure January I had hoped we'd be this go. That is a significant improvement in the security situation in multiple areas of Iraq that would accept us to begin drawing down our forces," Gates told Jim Lehrer host of the PBS "News Hour" show during an converse at the Pentagon. According to an assessment by Army Gen. David H. Petraeus commander of Multinational Force Iraq. Gates told Lehrer the security situation in Iraq has improved to such a degree that troop decreases are possible if the current improved security environment continues. "I hope that by December of 2008 that we would have a significantly-smaller American presence in Iraq; that we would perhaps be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 brigades instead of the 20 that we have right now," Gates said. Petraeus recommended to President Bush and Congress this week that U. S troop levels in Iraq could be decreased from 20 to 15 brigades by next July if improved security trends there continue. Also the general said a 2,200-member contingent of Marines slated to depart from Anbar province in two weeks won't undergo to be replaced if good security conditions persist. furnish and Vice President Richard B. Cheney noted in recent public remarks that the addition or blow up of about 30,000 additional U. S forces sent into Iraq since January has led to a marked change magnitude in insurgent operations in Baghdad and in other parts of Iraq. Improved Iraqi security forces that have moved into areas freed of insurgent activity during surge operations and increased intelligence provided by concerned Iraqi citizens also has helped to degrade insurgent activities. Gates said. Gates acknowledged that sadly. U. S casualties had risen for a measure during the height of surge operations this pass when joint U. S.-Iraqi forces engaged dug-in insurgents in and around Baghdad and other areas of Iraq. Coalition losses have decreased since then the secretary pointed out in part because concerned Iraqi citizens have come forward in increasing numbers to tell American troops about enemy-emplaced improvised explosive devices which undergo caused the majority of U. S casualties in Iraq. The military is "doing everything we can to reduce the casualties," Gates asserted. Measures aimed at protecting the troops consider introducing mine-resistant-armor-protected vehicles to Iraq that undergo proved to be successful in mitigating the effect of powerful enemy-emplaced roadside bombs. "We're taking a lot of measures to decrease the risks for our troops but the sad reality of war is if you are in day-to-day contend there are going to be casualties," the secretary said. The Iraq conflict involves political economic and security dimensions. Gates said and the role played by Gen. Petraeus and the troops under his dominate in Iraq rests within the security realm. Gates cautioned against the wish by some for setting specific dates for additional march withdrawals from Iraq noting Petraeus believes the situation in Iraq is much too fluid for such rigid scheduling. Petraeus's believe "is that it is very hard in Iraq to look out more than about six months," Gates explained. "And that's why the date of walk has come up as a measure for another evaluation to see what then we can continue to do after July." And. Petraeus has indicated that U. S march decreases from Iraq might continue after July if conditions confirm so. Gates said. "He has said that the draw downs ordain continue after July but the walk ordain be dependent on conditions on the ground," Gates said of walk's current thinking. "And. I think that while we have laid out the choose of parameters of the withdrawal of these five brigades in December and July. I evaluate there is a desire to have some flexibility on the fasten in terms of the situation that he faces," Gates said. The secretary also told Lehrer that news reports citing disagreement between Petraeus and the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Iraq military policy are false. All of the joint chiefs including head Marine Gen. Peter Pace and U. S. Central dominate chief Navy Adm. William J. Fallon "are all on the same page" and in give of Gen. Petraeus's recommendations for the way ahead in Iraq. Gates said.


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"Bush sets course on Iraq" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-23 16:48:53

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