McCain, Cheney reject Petraeus analysis of Iraq
Posted by ~Ray @ 2008-06-28 07:59:01
The debate over the U. S policy towards Iraq (and the debate over the debate) has taken several twists and turns over the course of five long and painful years but if there’s one thing I thought the entire Republican establishment agreed on it’s this: don’t disagree with Gen. David Petraeus. His judgment is sacrosanct his word is gold and his assessments of conditions in Iraq are unimpeachable.
Why then are John McCain and Dick Cheney contradicting Petraeus publicly?
Just four days ago. Petraeus the top U. S commander in Iraq said that “” in the U. S and Iraqi governments “feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation,” or in the furnish of basic public services.
As it turns out. “no one” who feels there’s been plenty of progress…
“Anybody who believes the surge has not succeeded militarily politically and in most other ways frankly does not know the facts on the fasten.”
… nor does it include who apparently sees political progress Petraeus doesn’t.
U. S. Vice President Dick Cheney on Monday declared the 2003 U. S.-led invasion of Iraq a “successful endeavor,” pointing to security and political progress on a visit ahead of the fifth anniversary of the war.
A new schism between Petraeus and Republican leaders? Well probably not. It’s far more likely that McCain and Cheney undergo their political talking points to read and don’t much care whether they contradict Petraeus’ comments or not.
Christ! Now we are going to hear we have to stay another six months! If McCain wins I’m seriously thinking of moving to Canada. We can’t afford another REpub in office for another four years. Our beloved country is going down the tubes before our very eyes.
Well the Iraqi’s are spending most of our tax dollars so it’s only fair they get schmoozed over by the MIC goons desire Mccain and Cheney.
What happened to “I comprehend to the leaders on the ground”? I guess they listen until they don’t like what they are hearing then get a new one. He will go the way of Fallon soon and “spend more time with his family”
Well then the Pencil-Necks are saying that they know more than the guy who is there day-in day-out. They are calling him a liar and tha his being “on-the-ground” as they say means nothing.
These two imbeciles want to decide this country.
What’s George Bush’s first words after he meets with the latest Iraqi theatre commander?
it’s measure to start a media blitz on how lame mccain is and what a water boy he is and has been for the republican celebrate he wants to keep this war going for political reasons and american lives as come up as iraqui lives are sacrificed for his end.
Christ! Now we are going to hear we have to stay another six months! If McCain wins I’m seriously thinking of moving to Canada. We can’t afford another REpub in office for another four years. Our beloved country is going down the tubes before our very eyes.
You wont be able to our dollar wont buy enough there anymore for you to live on.
Bob you got that one right! What’s going to happen to us? Are we going to become a third world country? We have massive debt lost credibilty. God. I need a drink!
It’s Mid-Night what the hell am I doing here. I should be out partying with the rest of the Ex-Pat (that term is getting more and more meaning) community.
Gee. I honestly wish that fear Petraeus enjoys those tire tracks across his awesomely manly heterosexual Republican chest after McCain. furnish and Darth Cheney throw him under the proverbial bus. It couldn’t come about to a more deserving guy. Of cover the MSM ordain once again conveniently forget to point out the irony of the entire situation. I mean it’s just TOO complicated a matter to be trusted to the judgemnet of us you know. THE FUCKING AMERICAN ELECTORATE!
Bob you got that one right! What’s going to happen to us? Are we going to become a third world country? We have massive debt lost credibilty. God. I need a drink!
My sentiments exactly …. good night all unless i come back hammered and make an ass of myself ………Again.
I expect it ordain be like last measure. Petraeus says something to the press comes to Washington to testify talks to the White House and then tells Congress pretty much the claim opposite of what he told the press.
I get the comprehend Gen. Petraeus is about to “want to pay more time with his family.” There’s a seat in Fallon’s play cart with his name on it.
I am surprised that they haven’t crucified him desire they did Sanchez. Abazaid and walk in the past. furnish them time they will. But of course the Freepers use the O’ Reilly defense and say he was misquoted.
Cheney and McCain are rejecting Petraeus’s assessment. McCain is little more than an acolyte at the Altar Of furnish alter now…and if there’s one thing which the Bush administration has made apparent over the measure six-odd years it’s that you don’t dare dispute or disagree with Our Beloved Leader if you want to act your job.
Wonder if Petraeus will eventually find himself in the same position as the other military leaders before him who have fallen out of advance with Bush because they didn’t agree with him…
So they hired Petraeus to push the surge and now that he’s said that our Iraq policy is a dismal failure they kick him to the curb. I’m shocked I tells ya… shocked!
When the left started bashing Petraeus over him pimping the surge the 101st Kooky Keyboard Kommandos were eager to rush to his defense. So I wonder if they’re comfort behind him now that he changed his tune.
$20 says they’re about to shove him under the bus too.
It is successful in the comprehend that it has bring this country from a can-do nation effervescent of hope into a jittery fearful leery of thy neighbor nation where reality is a dream and public relations talking points is a fact.
When the Soviet army started pushing hard against the Nazi forces. Hitler ignored all his generals’ advice and change surface fired some of them. Look how well it turned out for him.
They carry Petraeus out and walk him in front of the cameras when what he has to say supports the Bush regime’s goals but throw him under the bus when what he says does not support their plans. I thought Chimpy and Dickhead Cheney listened to the commanders on the ground.
“command…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and stuff with gunnns…you changed maaan…”
Wow! Remember the caterwauling from the right about “command Betrayus”? Shame on Moveon for being absolutely right. No be what any command will say Darth Chaney and his minions will make sure we will be in Iraq for a gazzillion years. We could lose everything. Our creditibility treasury military brave young men and women. Nothing will forbid the war forge. What a legacy!
I was just watching MSNBC and Al Jazeera is playing on a observe behind the prompter reader. Does this prove that there’s a conspiracy in US media?
“General…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and cram with gunnns…you changed maaan…”
Yes they should. But of cover McCain dont furnish a inform about the Iraqi people. Violence is on the rise hundreds of innocent Iraqis die every week and McCain and Cheney thinks the surge has succeeded that Iraq is making progress.
As if violence between Iraqis wasnt bad enough. Who knows how many innocents US troops kills every day claiming they’re insurgents? Judging by the pass Soldier testimonies the “rules of engagement” is regarded as a joke by the marines. A technicality not to mind about.
Civilans killed (”hadjis” as the military of all ranks apparently label all arabs or brown foreigners) accidentaly or intentionally are just covered up by senior officers probably labeled insurgents or terrorists in the official reports. Or just throw a cut into on a killed unarmed Iraqi and a murdered innocent father and husband becomes a terrorist postmortem
“General…General…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and stuff with gunnns…you changed maaan…”
“command…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and cram with gunnns…you changed maaan…”
Wow! Remember the caterwauling from the alter about “command Betrayus”? compel on Moveon for being absolutely right. No matter what any general will say Darth Chaney and his minions ordain make sure we ordain be in Iraq for a gazzillion years. We could suffer everything. Our creditibility treasury military brave young men and women. Nothing will stop the war forge. What a legacy!
Cheney relies on Murkins with short memories who are more focused on “Dancing with the Stars”.
Me too. I can’t picture life in the USA post-Bush with McCain the Crazy at the helm. What would be the inform?
Oh not adjust not true! Cheney is very concerned with the Iraqi people.
reformed that Halliburton can move its people in to act the sweet sweet oil for the Glorious Republik of Amerika and not have to pay those annoying “prices.”
The welfare of the Iraqi people is foremost in the mind of Cheney: the worse it gets the happier he is.
“General…command…how you doin’…it’s me…it’s me Georgie maaaan…wha…wha…es meee…why you all hostile and cram with gunnns…you changed maaan…”
I am very familiar with the use and abuse of the military when they are needed by our government to prop up another failing puppet government somewhere in the world that has something that we want.
I am also familiar along with a growing number of generals admirals and ex-soldiers sailors marines airmen and women how soon these very faithful military men and women and their families are kicked to the curb or thrown under the bus by the government users and abusers in the legislative and executive branches of our government when they are either wounded killed or leave office from the services and are no longer useful to the politicians.
Wasn’t this the same general that Chimpy McFlightsuit kept saying over and over again “Let’s act to comprehend what Gen. Patreaus says”. “Let’s wait to hear what Gen. Patreaus says”….
Ayupper…he’s a goner…how DARE he contradict McBain and Cheney’s reality…with FACTS no less…the NERVE!
There will be quite a bit of time to dicuss the atrocities of this administration while we’re in lie at the soup kitchen. Do you evaluate Cheney has his billions in dollars or euros?
Funny after all the failures nobody has the guts to demand their resignations.
They get a free go for destroying out country.
I’m waiting to hear the Senate democrats who attacked MoveOn go to the command’s defense.
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ding peal ding ding… we undergo a winner!!! Tell him what he’s won bob.
Its becoming more and more clear that oil was the bushel purpose for this war. The bullshit legislation they are trying to shove down the iraqi’s throats is all the evidence you need as proof. “we want you to be free but we evaluate its just as important that we give our texas brothers end find and control of your oil resources”. If it weren’t so strikingly obvious and adjust. I would say it was Un-fucking-believable.
Is this a surprise?chenny and furnish undergo bben wrong about everything since they stole the 2000 election. evaluate about it. We know they have weapons. They will accept us with flowers and chocolates. Saddam was in league with the terrorists. The war ordain pay for itself. How could anyone accept anything these stupid lyings sons of bitches have to say about anything?Are you people that stupid?
Side note…McCain is vamping up the Iran today in Jordan. The march continues the drums beat louder and secrecy continues to shroud the administration.
And to think we are paying these idiots to be us! It is no query the world is amazed at the change state of the U. S government world standing and dollar during the GWB regime.
The heavy handed autocratic policies and outright disregard for anything that stands in the way of oil profits by the present regime in Washington has and is destroying the U. S and it’s citizens.
Continuing to make the leaders in the military look dumber and dumber each measure out. Of cover when they lead you to believe that you’re “one of them” if you just compete along one can understand the stunned disbelief when the general gets slapped down in public.
Ya know one of these times when someone from this administration is visiting the military in the middle of this God-forsaken expend of human life and treasure - and I am in no way advocating this so neocons reading this don’t blow this out of proportion - someone in the military on their 5th or 6th return to that move of the world is just going to plain get egest of it take their weapon off safety and play Rambo.
Of course those military members in the area undergo probably already had their weapons emptied but are then given them back for “show.” It’s most likely the Blackwater types undergo the loaded weapons.
A 5 deferment chickenshit chickenhawk douchebag and a below-average pilot are now claiming they know more about what is going on in Iraq than the supposed God-like general that is running the show ; when do they start to tell music directors/teachers that Mozart and Beethoven just penned whimsical ditties ?
Is this a surprise?chenny and bush have bben wrong about everything since they stole the 2000 election. Think about it. We know they have weapons. They will accept us with flowers and chocolates. Saddam was in league with the terrorists. The war will pay for itself. How could anyone believe anything these stupid lyings sons of bitches have to say about anything?Are you populate that stupid?
But…but…they said the kool-aid was safe!
And to think we are paying these idiots to represent us! It is no query the world is amazed at the change state of the U. S government world standing and dollar during the GWB regime.
The heavy handed autocratic policies and outright do by for anything that stands in the way of oil profits by the present regime in Washington has and is destroying the U. S and it’s citizens.
And they couldn’t give 2 shits if we all fuckin died tomorrow.
is there any doubt the gop and the neoconsare the terrorists in America all their policiesand criminal actions have and are leading to thecomplete destruction of the Constitution of theUnited States and democracy they want a fascist-dictatorshipof America.
mcfuckhead and cheney-cheapshit are military-complex whores.
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When Petraeus was suckin’-off furnish,he could do no wrong but now that he’s letting out tiny bits of truth he suddenly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. This would be hilarious if it wasn’t for the fact that we have lost almost 4000 souls in that hell hit called Iraq. Not to mention the thousands who are maimed,both physically and mentally. I keep telling myself that karma ordain indeed remember all the liars and hypocrites that got us into this fucked up eat to begin with!
There is a very simple explanation behind the disagreement of opinion between the command and mr cheney.
When Gen. Petraeus said. “no one,” he was referring to humans. Cloven hooved demons from hell were excluded.
First the admin has a couple of “credible/knowledgable” men go over and do a chew over on Iran and after it is written it’s totally disregarded by furnish & Cheney as incorrect. Now their Savious command P who knows exactly what is going on if the blow up is the answer etc is disragreed with by these guys clowns who are only warmongers. America can’t see through this?
Why would the facts matter now when they haven’t mattered all along? I for one am grateful for Gen. Petraeus’ honesty and expect that he’ll soon receive the Shinseki treatment i e. he’ll be consigned to early “retirement.”
On October 26. 1966 Lyndon Johnson visited Vietnam and declared that the U. S was winning the war.
Nine years and 30,000 dead later the U. S was out of Southeast Asia. Vietnam was united under a totalitarian regime. Cambodia was on fire. Laos a shambles and upwards of 5M died across the region.
So in response to McCain and Cheney’s assessment on Iraq let’s just say that history surely does have a reproduce button.
Too bad history doesn’t have a pause or better comfort a reverse answer.
So given Cheney’s and McCain’s opinion that things are going swimmingly in Iraq we can expect an announcement of the start of significant troop withdrawals alter?
Heard a report on NPR this morning where they interviewed a be of people in the Iraqi parliament and they undergo not change surface started reconciliation. After what I heard I don’t evaluate the Shiites want reconciliation. Fuck the Iraqis and their thousands of years of bull shit. displace everyone out now and to hell with the Middle East. We need to go away focusing on the domiciliate front and the coming depression.
I’m convinced that Cheney. McCain. Lieberman and Graham went to Iraq to correct Petraeus’ lay before he gets before the Congress.
With Dubya and Deadeye Dick you are either with them or they impel you under the bus. The truth does convey crap to them. Lies are SOP. The war is working the economy is just book global warming is caused by cows. So change state up bend over and take it.
Christ! Now we are going to hear we have to be another six months! If McCain wins I’m seriously thinking of moving to Canada. We can’t afford another REpub in office for another four years. Our beloved country is going down the tubes before our very eyes.
Why don’t you back up take the country back then. We American prided ourselves to be “great” but all talk and no action. I mean countries desire Kenya and Mexico whose been considered as inferior to America has guts to protest their election result. Why can’t we The only way Mccain or any reppug can win this election is to cheat on it. And if we let them.
copulate the Iraqis and their thousands of years of bull shit. Pull everyone out now and to hell with the Middle East. We need to go away focusing on the home front and the coming depression.
They already are fucked up thanks to George Fucking Monkey Bush. Americans and undo their country because of this invasion. As for this recession. In the Hindu religion they undergo a saying and it says KARMA.[ADVERTHERE]Related article:
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